

Why the hypocrisy?Īs far as game play is concerned the scenario envisioned was only ever wargamed and never happened in real life. I am aware of only two times a carrier group was ever engaged by surface ships both were ambushed. You accuse me of not answering questions. In the context of those kinds of battles - direct surface engagements - you won't find submarines accomplishing much in the battle itself.Ī handful of the many examples of real-life battles that match the context of what happens when you hit BATTLE in WOWS. (In WOWS terms, the battle of the Atlantic would be more like the Campaigns.) When the BATTLE button is hit in WOWS, you're getting a compressed version of something like "The Battle of Midway" or "The Battle of Sunda Straight". Or are you really claiming that "The Battle of the Atlantic" and "The Battle of Midway" are equivalent things? You seem stuck on conflating two distinct uses of "battle".

Except for the sinking of the Bismarck and Graf Spee.Īlso carriers were only ever ambushed in such situations and ambushes are not battles according to your logic. Also means the battle of the Atlantic was not a battle. Ok then we have a small problem as that type of engagement rarely even happened in either war. That those ships were a part at the time they were sunk.īut to say they didn’t die in battle is well good luck. You want to argue a particular engagement is a battle and those that do not support you idea are not, go ahead but you are wrong it is a bunch of engagements. That being said many of those ships were lost in battles. Saying it was a submarine battle isn’t true as many aircraft and surface ships took part. A battle is made up of many engagements of different types. "Makes GreyFox mad" is not the definition of a "bad faith argument".Īs in the context of surface engagements is a bad faith tactic. That doesn't in any way diminish their sacrifices or somehow desecrate or belittle their resting places. In the context of actual surface engagements vs being ambushed out of the blue, they weren't killed in a battle.

Spare us the faux moral fury and crocodile tears. that's a rather awkward and blatant attempt at "shaming".
